[deboboy]

"but an enterprise programmer who's managed to get shit done in a big corporate environment should be highly valued. Not only can they program, they can also put up with all of the bullshit that it takes to get things through to production. There is something to be said about a programmer who can essentially handle the politics as well" - These people are gold, will hire them all day long... just did at one of our healthcare startups.

[SmellTheGlove]

Screw you, stop stealing my people :)

Seriously, though, the people that can endure the corporate marathon are uniquely skilled. Imagine that it's not the long hours and breakneck pace that kill you, but the exact opposite. The ones that can see their work through to the end are amazing in their own right.