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by merraksh 3321 days ago
Previous discussion has this top comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11652159) by cant_kant, which I believe is worth posting here:

Sensible doctors do not believe drug company marketing.

I get large amounts of ad-junk from drug companies that ends up unread in the bin. I refuse to meet with drug company representatives. I smile politely at them if I bump into them in the corridor and suggest that they leave their ad-junk with my secretary. My staff then file their ad-junk in the trash bin.

On Friday, I had a drug company representative attempt to tell me ( he was hanging around my coffee area ) about the joys of Targin, a fixed-dose combination of oxycodone and naloxone. I gently shook him off, and directed him to my secretary.

Drug company representatives are usually decent human beings with lives and families. However they are poorly educated, poorly informed salesmen and women with sales targets to meet and product managers to keep happy. Even worse, they and the drug company have no accountability if a patient dies because of their recommendations. If avoidable death supervenes or if there are non-lethal complications or even just therapeutic failure, I am accountable.

Instead of relying on marketing, I rely on information from good, well performed randomised controlled studies published in reputable peer reviewed journals ( I like the NEJM ) and on meta-analyses of these. I view the results of these through a filter of scepticism, cynicism, pragmatism and a modicum of hope.

Many of my colleagues do likewise. I trust that you do the same in your respective vocations. Regrettably, there is a bell curve. I am sure that the drug companies find enough gullible prescribers out in the wild for their purposes.

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That sounds like a good, responsible, doctor. I probably wouldn't believe them if they were my doctor. I've been through a repaired Achilles and knee surgery and haven't gone to get the prescriptions filled for any of it. I don't trust any doctor anymore to give me something that is actually good for me - I suspect they're giving me something that's good for them.

I happen to have direct exposure to the medical industry at the practice level. I can tell you unequivocally that entire industry is compromised. Maybe you're a good doctor, and you have my best interests at heart, but you're in the minority, and your peers have ensured I won't be trusting you.

Original: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11652159

Also, this should probably have a "[2016]" tag in the title.

By that definition, most doctors aren't sensible.
All doctors are human. They probably have higher averages on [X things required to make it through med school and residency] but that doesn't guarantee they are above average on anything else. Like ethics. Or avoiding certain biases.
I meant to insult his definition. Clearly most doctors are sensible. Humans just aren't the rational logicians his standards require.
You should probably link the comment and discussion in question instead of just lifting someone else's words unattributed.
Good point, done. In my defense, I did post a link to the previous discussion below :-)