[gloomybrain]

I use both of them.

To my mind Telegram is a nice example of how to do things right. It's fast (in all senses), it's reliable and generally pleasant to use. It can be secure if you want it to :)

Not that WhatsApp is slow or not reliable. I can't formulate it but still I do like Telegram more. All the above is just my overall impression.

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Speaking of security I'd like to admit that I'm not a terrorist or a serial killer so maybe I'm a bit out of this problem. I agree that it's generally bad to spy on regular citizens but at the same time it's obviously even worse to have negotiations regarding terroristic acts or other ways to commit a crime.

Personally I'm almost O.K. with government spying on me unless it tries to sell me goods and services =)

[wruza]

Or tries to put words you don't even remember into context, or new administration chases you for your older ideas and puts you on a list. Good for you living in centuries-stable country.

[JshWright]

> I agree that it's generally bad to spy on regular citizens but at the same time it's obviously even worse to have negotiations regarding terroristic acts or other ways to commit a crime.

I'm not sure I would call that "obvious".

[inputcoffee]

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu