[invalidname]

The problem is its performance on the device and size overhead is horrible. Javafxpackager is just about the worse too.

Check out Codename One which is more like Swing but far more robust. The GUI builder isn't as refined as scene builder but the final product actually works everywhere and far more portable than anything else.

[monkmartinez]

Codename one "Professional Edition" is $79 per month! Basic is $19 per month... As a kind of "indie" developer that is very expensive. Gluon Mobile is not much less expensive at $42 per month. Still, free edition looks better than Codename 1 free edition.

Wondering if Jetbrains will release Kotlin/Native for a set price or charge monthly like most companies are doing these days.

[Moter8]

Had to try Gluon Mobile for work for some weeks, being a complete newb to JavaFX.

I build a simple Pacman game. Running on Android wasn't a problem even though the builds took an entire minute to complete.

Compiling and running on iPhone was a nightmare though: At the beginning of the project I was able to run it - some days later I had to tweak the RAM being allocated to the trans/com/whatever-piler - a week later and the weeks after I was unable to compile it at all, there just wasn't enough in my MacBook to throw at the thing.

And the subjective performance was relatively bad too. They tried to reimplement Material Design and it looks somewhat like it, but it performs pretty badly.

Even their own conference app demoing Gluon Mobile is terrible and that says a lot.

[invalidname]

Codename One is open source and has a free edition without nag screen or any license restrictions. For that $19 you get more platforms and no need for a Mac etc.

[tomc1985]

But you have to use their BS cloud build service? Hell no.

[invalidname]

Instead of having both a Mac and PC which is the only other alternative that's physically legal.

Notice that this is a compile time feature, you don't need to use it for production.

[reitanqild]

Why so negative?

I'm also against "cloud everything" but here they seem to provide an actually useful service.

[tomc1985]

Those are good points, thanks for the heads up