[craigvn]

Who do you think is going to pay the taxes and support your lifestyle when you are retired? The kids that you didn't want to help pay for.

[aoeuasdf1]

Indiviudal investments, a 401k account and Social Security are all paid for ahead of time. There's no dependence on children there.

[craigvn]

> Social Security are all paid for ahead of time

What the hell are you talking about? Your taxes now are not to finance your future social security when you retire.

You're in dream land if you think you have no cost to society because you have a 401k to live on when retired.