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by guitarbill 3318 days ago
> It will be interesting to see how this pans out for developers that stay in the UK

Positive side: Less tech people = more money (which already has happened IMO, although maybe that's simply because accounting in big companies is in USD). Negative side: Less tech people...

EU techies have already started to move away. And some of the UK companies I've kept in touch with are really struggling to hire now. Personally, I'd always take a good office atmosphere/culture over more pay and a less skilled team.

As for non-EU techies, judging from one of our co-workers, getting a UK visa is horribly complicated. Don't think they'll make up the numbers fast.

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Another issue that remains to be seen how UK will handle it, is that all EU related projects cannot be delivered from non-EU countries without a data agreement in place.

So those projects being delivered from UK either need to move into a EU country or start ramping up EU compliant data agreements.

> Less tech people = more money

Hmmm. Only if the jobs stay in the UK. We continue to use the EU techies - but at offices elsewhere within the EU.

Even if some jobs leave, if you're above average you'll probably be okay. You'll always need techies, and they'll always be business cases where techies in the country are needed, or where businesses need it done right now. Still not a great atmosphere though...
To be fair we're already experiencing the beginnings of "Less tech people = more money"; the contract job I've just started hired me due to the "staffing adjustment" of some of their European coders.

The result is £925 a day for me, which in east midlands UK is a very tasty morsel.

May I talk to you to know about how can I find such opportunitiy? I am looking to move to London, and want to evaluate my options. May you email me: skfix at outlook.com
There are some specific circumstances surrounding what I'm doing, so consider £925 as an ultra-rare, not-in-any-way indicative dayrate. To be fair even in London that would be high, though I know some fintech consultants can get that and more. And legacy language guys.

In summary I'm a SaaS guy, being used to replace 3 Europeans who aren't likely to be there long-term to continue to build the product beyond its initial launch. My (albeit extortionate) day rate is less than their 3 combined, so it made sense for the company. Right place right time for me.

For colour, from your perspective: if you can get £500 a day in London that's not bad at all, up here in the East Midlands (I'm near Nottingham) I can get £350 to £400 a day, though I would normally trade some back for work flexibility (I prefer to work less than 8 hours a day).

Ok, and how someone new to London, should look for contracts there?
Make sure your phone number is on your CV, and get it on Jobsite, Monster, Reed, TotalJobs, etc. Make sure you've ticked whatever box allows these profiles to be publicly viewable by recruiters.

Then wait a couple of days for the Recruiters' automated search systems to index your CV. You'll start getting phone calls about positions soon after.

I've been hoping contract day rates would go up too. But 925 in the East Mids is amazing. I'm intruiged - would you mind emailing (see profile) some details?
I'll email you at the Spreadserve one in a bit.