[oridecon]

Really? On a discussion about a desktop OS? There are so many things going through my mind after your comment that I can't even start typing. Branch limit reached.

I'm using Android and I have the same concerns about it. I gave my Lumia away because it doesn't have the apps that I need and, again, I had the same concerns. My time is limited so I have to pick my battles. Mobile is a lost cause.

So I decide to give feedback about one of the two desktop OSs that I use (Windows and Linux). I don't give a shit if Apple/Google is going to make you insert a coin every hour to use the OS, I would still complain to MS if they decided to do the same.

I don't even know exactly what's your point. Feel free to ask if I write Microsoft with a $.

[apardoe-MSFT]

I didn't mean to offend. I'm just saying that if you think paying for an OS means you won't have data collection, then you're unlikely to find a smartphone that suits you.

My point, exactly, is that Microsoft is just another tech company these days. They're not the Evil Empire. At best, they are one of Many Evil Fiefdoms.

I understand that people are up in arms about data collection. And I understand that Microsoft tends to bungle any kind of public messaging about data collection. I'm just pointing out that every mobile OS, at least, collects tons of data.

And do you write Microsoft with a $? :)

[oridecon]

> I'm just saying that if you think paying for an OS means you won't have data collection, then you're unlikely to find a smartphone that suits you

> I understand that people are up in arms about data collection. And I understand that Microsoft tends to bungle any kind of public messaging about data collection. I'm just pointing out that every mobile OS, at least, collects tons of data.

Why do you keep talking about mobile when the subject of this thread and my original comment is about Windows Desktop OS? Should we talk about IoT too?

> My point, exactly, is that Microsoft is just another tech company these days. They're not the Evil Empire. At best, they are one of Many Evil Fiefdoms.

You're triggered because I mentioned the word "trust"? When data leaves your computer, it's all about trust. I don't trust anyone so I don't want my personal data leaking in the first place. Most of the time ("like in mobile") there's no viable, realistic, practical alternative.

If the money I paid for my Windows license is not enough they need to rethink their pricing. That's all I'm asking. Allow me to pay for my privacy. I would quietly leave your ecosystem if I could but congratulations, you have me locked in because of my job and certain network effects.

[apardoe-MSFT]

Wow, sorry. No, no, I'm not triggered at all. I was only trying to illustrate the fact that there are times when we have no choice but to use an OS that uses telemetry.

I'll happily concede this thread and apologize for having brought it up. I really wasn't trying to start a fight. I was trying to give what I thought was an analogous example.