[SXX]

> Unlike say, Windows, there is nothing locking you into Google you don't have to use Chrome or GMAIl, or their search.

I agree about their search, but problem with Chrome isn't just lack of alternatives. Problem is that Google have too much power over web standards and all of competitors have to follow. Even Mozilla had to implement DRM.

Gmail is similar: Google never directly used their power against competitors, but they make email a lot more centralized. Their intransparent anti-spam make it much harder to run own mail servers or send notifications / newsletters, etc.

Of course almost any company with 60-80% of market share would likely do the same and this is why it's bad.

[lallysingh]

Are the relevant standards bodies just puppets?

[SXX]

None of them are independent. Members of W3C / WHATWG / etc work for Google or competitors. They all have to agree on something because with Chrome market share anything can be enforced anyway.

If there feature video on YouTube / Netflix won't play without everyone going to implement it anyway.

[maverick_iceman]

Making their anti-spam operations transparent may be self-defeating, spammers may then be able to game the system.

[SXX]

There are more ways to make it transparent than exposing anti-spam secrets and here is few random ideas. First of all there is already CA system and there no reason why there couldn't be system where you pay for signing certificate to make sure your mail is always delivered as long as certificate reputation remain high. Imperfect, yet that would be much more reliable than current lottery system.

Another way to improve situation is to get rid of shady black lists BS like Spamhaus and replace them with proper organizations. Google could also create some consortium to improve protocols, implement easy to use mail servers that send everything properly out-of-box, then enforce DKIM usage, etc.

But no, Google need nothing of it because they have huge market share and directly benefit when non-Gmail services become unreliable.