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by BrainLesion 3325 days ago
“In IT we have a saying; stay away from the Three Os: Orientals, Old People and Ovaries.”

In 17 years of working IT, I have never heard this saying and nothing even close.

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It's an old joke about driving, not IT. The guy was just trying to be funny, I guess.
That makes more sense, actually. I haven't heard a person use the term "Oriental" for a group of people in several decades. Makes sense that it's from an old (and stupid) joke.
I work in IT and my boss uses it with embarrassingly regular frequency... he is in his mid 50s.
Much more common outside the US, where it's not seen as a slur at all. It's commonly used to differentiate the "Far East" (China, Japan, etc) from the rest of Asia (India, etc).

It does technically mean "from the east", after all.

But yeah, you'll see it everywhere in the U.K. for example

"three Os" sounds better than "one A and two Os"...
FWIW, if the IT folks I know actually followed this "saying", it would eliminate 80% of the department.
Here in everywhere else we have a saying: "Stay away from Early Termination, Extra-Terrestrials, and Euen Thompson of Magic Leap."
Same, and I started under a guy who held nothing sacred and could swear paint off the walls.
On some level it's hard to believe that people say things like this, especially out loud and with women present.

(But I do believe it)

I would report anyone that said that to HR.
I guess if your only metric is what people are willing to say in front of you then it probably works but you know what they say about metrics...

In general, going for the passive aggressive nuclear option and involving some external authority as your first step is almost never* the right thing to do if you want to actually solve the problem.

In the context of things that shouldn't be said in the workplace doing that creates distrust that prevents people from speaking freely which inevitably works its way into everywhere and affects performance.

*ignoring edge cases.

If someone hasn't realized by now that saying something like that is unacceptable, I have to call into question their critical thinking skills.
A recent 60 Minutes episode focused on employees in IT that were replaced H1-B Visa contractors. What the reporter failed to notice, or mention, is that every terminated employee was over 50 (my estimate based on appearance).
So haven't I and boy am I glad. There seems to be a self selecting bro culture bubble.
Have you worked IT in Florida?
I'm from Florida, worked in tech there, have never heard this phrase and I'd expect anyone using it on the clock to be dressed down pretty severely.