[notsofastmister]

I've lived in multiple European countries and have never seen any of the rationing, waiting lists, supply shortages or others that you list.

Treatment I've known people go through include cancer therapy, orthopedic surgery, eye laser treatment, chronic pain management, casts after accidents, and others.

[fetbaffe]

Sweden has all of those problems

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/akut-brist-pa-vardplatser-i-hela-...

[stupidhn]

>Sweden has all of those problems

It seems like healthy people spend a bit of time in wealthy nations with socialized health care and see nothing wrong with the system.

Live it. Have friends and family suffer illness or disability and try to find treatment. There is very little preventative care where I'm from because the doctors have no time. It's emergency after emergency.

So, sure, in Canada you won't break the bank if you dislocate your shoulder and have to go to the ER. But any special procedures and you'll be waiting years sometimes for an appointment.

[fetbaffe]

Are you saying that Sweden does not have these problems? Based on what? Do you live there? Any facts?

US problems in health care are not the same as the Swedish problems. Different problems, different solutions.

Disclosure: I live in Sweden and follow the health care debate here.

[jessaustin]

You misunderstood GP. Rather than disagree with your description of Sweden, GP claimed that Canada also has problems, and offered a theory as to why some people don't appreciate such problems.

[fetbaffe]

To dispel the myth about the Swedish "free" health care system, today about 650 000 swedes have private health care insurance, 70% paid by the employer. This is on top on the already public tax funded health care system.

So basically Sweden is slowly introducing the US system.

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/privat-sjukvardsforsakrin...