[spraak]

Babies feel pain, which you seem to be saying they don't with:

> by 13 he will go through with it. So now there's physical pain as well.

[relics443]

I'm not saying they don't. But the experience is forgotten quickly.

[spraak]

It's really not. There is evidence [1] that the trauma of circumcision lasts a lifetime

1. One example is Ch 4 and 5 of http://www.circumcision.org/cht.htm