[balls187]

> The problem is beyond rote security at this point. We're in the realm of talented, well financed threat actors with databases of 0days.

State actors

[fixxer]

I think that is likely the case, but I don't know if that is an exclusive thing anymore. A lot of what I read about reminds me of 1970s sponsorship of various terror entities and revolutionaries.

[walrus01]

From a nation state actor standpoint it is probably a lot cheaper to pay gobs of money to a half-dozen antisocial young black hat types (that have been messing around with linux since age 12 in their bedroom in belarus), than to fund the PLO.

[fixxer]

Yep, and if you look at the carders in Russia, they have some very close ties with government. Perfect infrastructure for this shit.