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Sorry, perhaps I phrased it poorly.

I certainly see the benefit in the server world (eg, managing a data center) and even in the corporate one (eg, managing a lot of workstations), and didn't mean to imply that everyone thought it was a negative. (Though, even in that space, some people do because of the closed source nature where they don't have full control of the system.)

Rather, I meant that everyone who was serious about security was aware that it was there and included it in their threat modeling. It's not worse than other remote management technologies (and may be better, depending on your needs and trade-offs).

However, for certain systems, there's never a need for the remote management capabilities, and hence represents a threat for which there's no upside when included. (I would argue most consumer systems fall under this.)

There are of course, a range of opinions depending on ideological bent, and my main point was that there was a discussion about it happening.