[djsumdog]

..and HP servers/sans (iLO)

[Godel_unicode]

That's a separate system which lives on a daughter board. It's essentially a kvm+usb cdrom+power switch. No disk access, no dma.

Not the same thing at all.

Edit: and trivially removable if you don't want it.

[mjg59]

> No disk access

AMT doesn't provide raw disk access either

> no dma

It's connected to PCI. What makes you so sure that it has no DMA access?

> Not the same thing at all

Indeed - iLo is pretty good, but the implementations provided by other vendors have an even worse track record than AMT does.

[yuhong]

I think they even excluded iLO when they locked down firmware updates to paid customers just after https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/11/11/653 (they are the one who ported UEFI to RISC-V too!)

[dom0]

Well if you want to walk to the DC every time a server throws a tantrum, be my guest.