[Ntrails]

> Even where Corbyn's convictions get kooky, at least he seems to stick with and believe in them.

You mean except where he (poorly) pretends to follow Labour policy and claims he will support things against his own beliefs... :p

Brexit is a God Damned mess, but it won't get any better by allowing negotiations to be managed by a weak Government. I can see two likely scenarios right now:

- Non-Tory coalition government, high levels of capitulation and a deal that is worse in every way that our pre brexit relationship.

- Strong Tory government leads to a game of brinksmanship with the EU and eventual no deal hard crash out.

It doesn't look great either way imho >_<

[shawabawa3]

I can't believe it.

The strategy of repeating "Strong and stable" at every single opportunity actually works.

Theresa may constantly u-turns and contradicts herself, but hey, she's strong and stable so we'll have a strong and stable brexit and become the greatest britain there ever was.

If we somehow manage to get a non-tory coalition, we will very likely negotiation for remaining in the EEA (aka soft brexit) which will be much better than any kind of hard brexit, not to mention much cheaper

[Ntrails]

Strong refers to strength of majority, I'm making no comment on her quality as a leader (but arguably I'm happy to posit that she's got better credentials at it than the opposition).

>If we somehow manage to get a non-tory coalition, we will very likely negotiation for remaining in the EEA (aka soft brexit) which will be much better than any kind of hard brexit, not to mention much cheaper

Right, I'm not arguing against that - just that it's far far worse than no brexit at all would have been. We will be paying more and getting less on every useful metric. It would also ignore basically all of the core rationales for those who voted Brexit (which Labour has asserted it wishes to respect).

It sounds like you agree with me on the likely outcome of the election results though, so cool?