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by batter 3339 days ago
i have used OSGI in projects and find it useful to see bundles states, Camel routes/endpoints, lot's of other useful stuff. But i have never seen it working properly in PROD enterprise application. Sadly my eclipse is just confirming that from time to time with errors :(
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jcadam 3339 days ago
I know. OSGi needs to die. I'll quit a job before I subject myself to that level of pain and despair ever again.
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agumonkey 3339 days ago
Sorry for the easy jab, but is there anything from Eclipse that is good ?

ps: user and ex plugin developer asking

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pjmlp 3339 days ago
CDT used to be quite good, and there are some features like makefiles and debugging capabilities that are missing from CLion.

And actually it does use less resources than either InteliJ or Android Studio, while having faster builds.

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agumonkey 3338 days ago
Oh right I forgot CDT. The key to Eclipse's success.
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Groxx 3338 days ago
Android Studio's minimum-resource-usage-for-sane-performance is enormous. It does some things nicer than Eclipse, but there are definitely times I miss Eclipse's lean-ness, which is not a thing I would have expected myself to ever feel prior to AS.
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lmm 3339 days ago
The IDE is good. Eclipselink is fine.
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agumonkey 3339 days ago
I felt it was hog, slow, and the interal API is a maze. Also the virtual fs layer ...
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lmm 3339 days ago
It's big and slow, agreed, but it is very powerful. I don't know the details of the virtual FS layer but I can sympathise because that's very difficult to get right in a cross-platform way.
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agumonkey 3338 days ago
I don't think it's powerful. As fanatic as it seems, emacs is more powerful for real work. It's more human and more theoretical than Eclipse, which is a "usine a gaz" more than anything. It doesn't bring performance, nor ease of use, or stability. I don't get it.
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leastangle 3339 days ago
Jetty? OpenHAB?
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agumonkey 3338 days ago
Did Jetty start as an Eclipse project or was it swallowed recently ? I thought it was apache incubated.
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AdieuToLogic 3338 days ago 

  But i have never seen it working properly in
  PROD enterprise application.
FWIW, I have programmed for and deployed OSGi-based enterprise solutions. Karaf[0] was the container using Felix[1] most of the time (Equinox[2] being the other for a brief period). These are/were production systems, so I am curious by what you experienced as "never seen it working properly in PROD ..."

0 - https://karaf.apache.org/

1 - https://felix.apache.org/

2 - https://www.eclipse.org/equinox/

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