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by kolbe 3343 days ago
Hacker News is the only elite organization I like hanging out at!!

All things aside, HN always seems to be so serious in its discussion about content, and I never get the opportunity to say how much I appreciate this place.

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I agree. In fact I realized how good a community HN is when I did a Ask HN a while back. I even ended up writing an essay about it:

https://medium.com/black-n-white/the-problem-with-problems-4...

Compared to the responses at Reddit, Quora and other places the diversity of HN is astounding.

"Compared to the responses at Reddit, Quora and other places the diversity of HN is astounding."

I love HN and have been using for a really long time, but I joined Reddit relatively recently because I found HN to be rather limiting in comparison.

HN certainly can't be accused of being one-note or even two-note anymore, as it could when it first started. It's definitely been growing in diversity of stories as well as users, but it's still mostly about technology and startups. There are certainly articles about all sorts of topics discussed here, but those discussions tend to be relatively short-lived (maybe one or two days max) and then HN moves on to something else.

Compare that to a subreddit like /r/bodyweightfitness[1], where it's basically non-stop talk about the subject day after day after day, and the discussions tend to be pretty high quality ones (certainly at HN level, on this particular subject). HN might see a post about fitness ever now and then, but, again, the discussion will die in one or two days, and the subject does not get explored in anywhere near as much depth as on that subreddit.

That's just one subreddit, and there are thousands more, on virtually every conceivable subject. Not all of them are of high quality, the reddit front page and enormously popular subreddits tend to be garbage, and the overwhelming majority of subreddits are dead, but there are certainly enough quality subreddits to keep my interest and even to entice me from HN.

HN does scratch some itches for me, but not nearly as many as Reddit does. That said, I'm not ditching HN for Reddit, but I am always looking out for other communities with high quality discussions on the subjects I'm interested in.

Apart from Reddit, there are also many specialty forums that have really high quality discussions on their specific subject. For example, the Muffwiggler forum[2], which is a huge forum dedicated to modular synthesizers. Everything conceivable in relation to synths is discussed there, with many subforums on specific manufacturers and subject. It's really active, and the discussions there are super informative. You're just not going to find that kind of depth on HN, or even a synth-specific subreddit.

There are many other great forums out there, too. This is far from a rare example. You do have to search them out, but they are plenty of them out there, on all sorts of subjects. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that HN quality discussion is actually not that rare. You just have to dig below the garbage surface of the internet and it's there.

[1] - https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/

[2] - https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/index.php

I don't disagree but the problem with reddit is that these are all specialized channels.

My question was specifically one that didn't know which channel to ask in. You would never get through with that question on the front of Reddit.

I used to be on Reddit before I joined HN. There are as you say sub-reddits but they aren't good for when you don't know what you don't know.

At least in my experience.

There's a subreddit called r/findareddit where you can ask where to ask.

https://www.reddit.com/r/findareddit/

Have you seen many of the discussions around tools like Javascript, Golang, Django, Docker? Quite often they devolve into tiny opinionated nuances and you have to pull your head out of your laptop and ask yourself "what year is it??"
What does the year have to do with it? Given any geeky subject there are going to be strong opinions, always has been that way and always will be, we just couldn't see the artifacts of it as easily before the internet.

Not all the discussion on HN will be useful, but it's the highest signal to noise I've found in 30 years of participating in internet fora, at least for a group of this size.

I meant it in the sense of "oh god I just spent 40 minutes reading a circular argument".
All things accounted I still find HN the best discussion venue. I force myself to avoid reading discussions I suspect might not be interesting and apart from well known controversial topics signal to noise ration is usually high.

Genuinely curious question - do you know about place where these controversial technologies would be discussed in a "better" way?

Hacker News can be elitist, but I think it's more niche than elite. No site with an open membership policy can really be considered elite.
Maybe we should have a casual Friday.