| > Sorry, I assumed that 80% and 86% were close enough that a reasonable reader would be able
> to see that I had mis-remembered the second significant figure for statistics I heard a while ago. vs. >>and the source of those numbers is...?
>GregKH, who you linked in a cousin comment. the article i linked to has neither number. > An employer pays you to solve technical problems that rise from their business not at all. an employer pays for stuff it can't get done for free. it's basic economics at least but i'm sure some shareholders would also have trouble understanding why the company would waste money that way. you just admitted that you'd gladly do the same work for free yet you somehow failed to tell that to your employer who are thus paying you for something that they could get for free and spend that money on other important things instead. that's doubly damaging to your employer. > Let me ask you a question. [...] it doesn't have to be a security bug and it doesn't have to come from a customer, we look at them with the same attention and priority regardless. money has nothing to do with it, we do it (and we have done so since the beginning) whether we're paid or not. i think you just have a hard time imagining that what customers pay for isn't R&D (though we're open to such contract work too). > That statement doesn't say "developed for free" it says "provided for free". yes and it's disingenous as to be able to provide linux 'for free' someone has had to pay for it which is very different from our situation. > I don't agree that there isn't a significant proportion of development that is not paid[...] you're arguing semantics ('significant' vs 'majority') with Greg at this point, i'll let you two work it out. > I don't lend credence to hypothetical predictions about how Linux would be developed without anyone being paid. fortunately you don't need to predict anything, just compare the code of linux 1.0 and 4.11. > Despite what you say, Linux was developed for free for the first year or so and was mostly
> developed for free for several more years. i never said anything like that unless of course you can quote me back on it. anyway, you're clearly more interested in insults and ad hominem than a rational discussion, so you can have the last word. |
Were you involved in my hiring process? Are you my manager, or a stakeholder in my employer's business? How could you possibly know that I failed to tell my employer that?
> i think you just have a hard time imagining that what customers pay for isn't R&D
I don't have a problem imagining it, I just don't believe that your customers see it that way. If I was a customer of yours, I would expect that more R&D work would happen because I'm paying you (mainly because I firmly believe in free software businesses and that such R&D should be paid for).
> (though we're open to such contract work too).
Heh, so it's not 100% unpaid after all? ;)
> just compare the code of linux 1.0 and 4.11.
Wow, code gets better over time? Holy shit!
> so you can have the last word.
Gladly. :D