[cryptarch]

You mean that some developers are paid to implement things by companies? Fair enough, though I'd still argue it's not developed commercially because no one pays to get access to the result (they only pay to influence the result).

>> sure, come visit me in hungary

That'd be amusing, maybe sometime this summer? I'm kinda busy right now setting up my business :')

Let me know when you're around the Benelux, we could do the key-siging song-and-dance over a coffee or beer.