[thanksgiving]

I think most people will agree that the $200k+ starting salary in the bay area is an anomaly. Everyone is doing everything to "fix" this problem.

If we care about safety, we prohibit them from doing things that are unsafe. If management tries to make them do things that are prohibited, we should make it easy for people to say no without repercussions.

[ajmurmann]

The $200k starting salary in the bay area also is a myth. $100-120 is much more common as a first salary out of college.