| What tptakec is saying is that it's not the Jews that separated the e.g. assimilated Polish Jews as a category, but the Third Reich. > But a lot of these ethnic Jews did not thing about themselves as Jews, as they were being shipped of by the trains to Auschwitz. I don't know how you can say that especially bearing in mind the Nuremberg laws defined as someone with 3 or more Jewish grandparents. If you're that strongly Jewish by race, you're very unlikely not to have that as part of your core identity. And in any event, you're not addressing tptakec response to you with this. > But for some reasons these people were "separated" by some people to show how much more their group suffered. You may not have fully intended it, but that sentence comes across very poorly. > To me it's infuriating that we talk about just one specific group that died, while ignoring the rest. I don't know anyone that talks just about the Jews (you mean jews, right?) that died (were exterminated) and ignores the rest. It is an acknowledged fact that Jews suffered extermination disproportionate to any other race or nationality (90% of the 3 million Polish Jews, for instance). The only other group that's comparable when using the term Holocaust is the Romani (who's true numbers is still hard to hard estimate) who are mentioned (along with gays, the disabled etc.) in every reasonable discourse. |