[ingmarheinrich]

"Devops get stuff to run, Ops keeps stuff running". Following this definition, we'll always need Devops. When using AWS, there's no need for the old school "Ops", however, having SRE is a good thing. AWS + Devops + SRE = Profit.

[tapoxi]

I don't get why "ops" needs to be a separate group from "devops". Surely if ops is running the environment, they know best about how to tweak it?