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by __jal 3349 days ago
Shit like this is why I don't use anything from them. There are probably 15 or so different accounts for me in their DBs, which I will never even attempt to use again. Life is too short to put up with managing other people's CRM for them.

Apple is actually getting close to this bad, too, and in some ways, worse.

I gave my mother my old iPhone over a year ago. It was wiped, and we set it up with the 'family' whatsit. For reasons I won't go in to, at some point, I ended up giving her my Apple ID password to fix a problem when I couldn't do it.

Ever since then, something has periodically decided to sync a random assortment of things. It isn't consistent, temporally or in terms of what it syncs. (I'm very anti-cloud-service; I don't use online backup, sync or cloud docs or any other sync services from Apple. I think my other uses the backup, but nothing else, because the phone is her only Apple device.)

A few months ago, her contacts ended up splattered all over mine. I deleted them, it happened again a few days later, this time just a random assortment of them.

Yesterday, my call logs ended up on her phone.

Short of asking her to wipe the phone again, I don't know how to make this crap stop, but I'm sick of it. Seriously considering going back to a feature phone; everyone making modern phones appear to (a) make it impossible to have a self-contained phone without your personal life smeared across multiple companies' servers, and (b) be too incompetent to actually smear my personal life across their servers without fucking it up.

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"For reasons I won't go in to, at some point, I ended up giving her my Apple ID password to fix a problem when I couldn't do it."

I won't ask about the reasons, but it seems like everything in your email is a consequence of you setting up someone else's phone to use your account information.

Sure, going to a feature phone would solve that, but so would not actually sharing your account with someone else. What else did you expect?

In other words, how could Apple differentiate between "it's my account but not my phone" and "it's my account and it is my phone"?

> In other words, how could Apple differentiate between "it's my account but not my phone" and "it's my account and it is my phone"?

Because the phone in question used that Apple id precisely once, and is now configured with hers?

There's obviously some foreign key floating around keeping the association, even though it should not be there.

And that's ignoring the question of why and how, when syncing, backup, etc is turned off, my phone logs are even being sent to Apple at all, let alone leaked through to another phone? Same question with contacts - if I am not syncing or backing up, why does Apple grab my contacts?

> What else did you expect?

I expect, when logging in to a device with a given account, to only have access to things associated with that account.

I also expect, when configuring something to not share data, that it not share data.

Do you really have different expectations?

It's configured with an account at setup. You need to reset the phone before logging in with another account.
1) That is a false statement. [1]

2) Even if that were true, that is not what happened in this case.

3) Even if that were true, it still does not explain the weird random data leakage.

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203983

But did you reset the phone before handing it over?
Make sure that device isn't listed in your devices if you sign into iCloud.com with that account and go to the account settings.