[arikfr]

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years.

In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist.

(I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.)

[1] https://todoist.com

[amix]

Thanks for the support arikfr! Being a long time HN user, I am happy to see Todoist recommended.

We are in this for the long haul. We don't even go into acquisitions talks (we already turned down a lot of them), and we don't have an exit strategy. If you are interested in learning more please read our `No Exit philosophy` https://tentimezones.com/why-we-don-t-have-an-exit-strategy-...

[Applejinx]

I like this. I run the boutique audio plugin company Airwindows http://www.airwindows.com and last year I ran into a little problem: my payment processor, Kagi, went out of business owing me hundreds of dollars.

Your reasons for the No Exit strategy resonate with my thinking when I flipped Airwindows over to a Patreon strategy, decimating my income (I'd grossed close to a quarter million dollars by this point) just so I could release all future plugins as free AU, Mac and PC VSTs. At that point, the tactics became flooding the market with VST versions of software that had been AU-only up to that point, and coming up with promises (such as an open-sourcing program under the MIT license, and I've also debated using the GPL) to motivate people to join the Patreon.

If you starve and die, you can't do any work. If you're incredibly poor, you can only work on that which you can afford. (no modeling of Neve consoles here, not properly!) If you have incredible access to capital, sky's the limit, but it seems compulsory to screw over your users because capital demands to be returned tenfold, and this puts HUGE pressure on any dev or creator to turn full-on evil.

I don't know the answer and I'm not doing that awesomely, but that's not so different from how things were going before: that market is shriveling, in part because people simply can't pay money for things any more. There are major players which are, I think, staving off total collapse by setting up the most heinous DRM treadmills imaginable and trying to latch on to all the credit cards they can, all while trying to race to the bottom and starve everybody else.

I can't target capital as a goal anymore. I'll beg if I have to, I'll accept ugly and scary poverty, but I can't be part of the system geared to leave all the users with nothing. It's open source and tool-distribution for me. The whole concept of being rewarded with wealth for valuable work has become a charade when it gets crowded out by 'rewarded with lots more wealth by helping Microsoft screw everyone over'. The link's broken. And this is a rather big deal in a world where that link's axiomatic.

[arikfr]

As someone who is also building a company [1], I found this post (and the others on your blog around the topic) truly inspiring.

Actually it was a big part of why I decided to use Todoist and become a paid user. I was using it on and off for a long time (been a paid user in 2010!) but seeing how you run things, made me stay this time.

[1] https://redash.io

[izacus]

Nice to see that - I love Todoist, especially due to its wide platform support (having quality apps for macOS, Android and Android Wear is pretty awesome!).

[Etheryte]

The Todoist sign-up page now has a migration tool: "Coming from Wunderlist? Import your tasks." If that isn't timely reaction to a market need then I don't know what is.

[w4tson]

Done. Cheers! Took 15 mins once I'd faffed about and organised things. Plus the Alexa integration works a charm!

[darekkay]

I've been a paying customer for over 2 years now, after trying many other apps, and I'm not moving anytime soon. However, one thing that bothers me was first killing a voting platform and then the discussion forum on Todoist. You can still contact the support, but there is no way to publicly vote for or discuss any feature requests.

Also, a shameless plug: I've built a Todoist backup tool[0], which can be used even as a non-premium user and which supports more processing friendly formats[1].

[0] https://darekkay.com/todoist-export/

[1] https://darekkay.com/2014/12/14/todoist-export-tool/

[adamjc]

I can second this, I've been a paying customer of Todoist for 2 years now, really really enjoy it. The 'natural language' style of setting dates is a nice touch.

[chimeracoder]

Seconding Todoist. I've tried every to-do app/service around, and they're the best I've found.

It's not perfect - there are a few parts of the app that annoy me and can't be configured the way I need[0], but of all the ones I've tried, it's the closest to what I need.

[0] If anyone from Todoist sees this, I'd be happy to go into more detail about what those are.

[sjm]

I work at Doist — would love to get some feedback from you. My email is simon -emailcharacterthing- doist.com.

[thirdsun]

Great and very complete alternative indeed. While I personally prefer Things, particularly now since version 3 is finally almost here, I was very tempted to migrate to Todoist on more than one occassion when Things / Cultured Code went rather silent in the past.

[frou_dh]

The "feel" of Things.app on the Mac is just wonderful. The difference in feel between a highly polished Cocoa app and all these others that incorporate varying degrees of web technology mishmash is night and day in my book.

Cultured-Code's development schedule is indeed certifiably GLACIAL though. On the Things 3 (re)(re?)announcement front, I'm really surprised that they aren't switching to subscription pricing.

[jongunter1]

I've used Todoist, but I've found Remember The Milk a little more suited towards my own needs. I'v been using it for 8 years now (I think), so hopefully it should be around for a while.

[daniel_iversen]

I'd second Todoist. Its simply amazing! So easy and delightful a UI and yet it has a lot of really cool features (emailing tasks, nice to set up in a GTD environment etc.)

[msq]

Pity that backup is only available for premium users, so it is a vendor locking service :/

[darekkay]

Feel free to use my (open source) Todoist backup tool[0], which doesn't require a premium account and which is even more powerful than the built-in premium option. You can both export more data and use a format which is more suitable for data processing. Read my blog post[1] for more information.

[0] https://darekkay.com/todoist-export/

[1] https://darekkay.com/2014/12/14/todoist-export-tool/

[anthonybsd]

Hmm, I guess it's time to switch. Does To-Doist allow sorting tasks by due dates?

[skolos]

And they are blocked on our corporate network (unlike Wunderlist).

[TuringNYC]

I was initially excited but this was a let-down: >>>

The owner of www.todoist.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.

This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox may only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this certificate.

[JoshTriplett]

Works here. Are you behind a broken proxy?

[TuringNYC]

That's a relief. Wunderlist was wonderful for several reasons: - Windows client - iOS client - OSX/MacOS client - Auto-sync across everything

I hope the next thing has all these features, i hear Todoist does!

[TorKlingberg]

I know they are doing what HN commenters tell everyone to do and charge more, but I am just not comfortable paying £22/year for a todo list (£28 through Apple). I'm not really a todo list enthusiast, so I don't want 90% of the features features, just basic stuff like "show all tasks except those scheduled far in the future".

[lighttower]

I wish they had a family plan.