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> True, good point. But that seems more like basic incompetence or cockiness rather than awareness that 9/11 was about to happen.

Seems like mass suveillance by western agencies is jut a way to cover for their own incompetence. How many terrorist attacks in how many countries over the last few years have we heard that 'the suspect was known to intelligence agencies' and yet they still couldn't stop jack shit.

The whole intelligence apparatus in NATO countries needs reforming.