[robertfw]

> All these frameworks end up creating much more problems than they solve.

For small projects, sure, they might. But working at larger scale falls apart using plain html and jquery.

[andr3w321]

I assume by scale you mean many pages and not many visitors. For something like hackernews plain html and jquery would work perfectly fine.

[mod]

Yeah, I didn't mean scaling to users.

Scale was a poor choice of words. Front-end complexity is a better metric, and in particular complexity which relies on manipulating state.