[jgrahamc]

I don't like it when non-technical people talk about geeks. It doesn't feel right. The reason this community works is because PG is a geek (or hacker or whatever word you want to use) so he immediately has credibility.

This Lars guy (and the others) are not. They have made money etc. (which makes me jealous), but they are not geeks. And they should not talk to us like that.

It's like when your parents attempt to use slang that doesn't come from their generation to appear trendy. They fail, and fail hard.

[webjunkie]

But at least they acknowledge that it's the geeks who build the cool things. That's some new thinking here in Europe.

[whoa]

I know this Lars guy. He's not a programmer and he never claimed he is, but when I worked with him, he was able to patch up his own shell scripts, ssh into his web server and configure them without help. Later he did the smart thing and hired people more talented with tech than he is, and wasn't shy to admit this. Your geek score may be higher than his, but I'd definitely call him a geek. One thing is true, though - the fact that English isn't his first language may make his choice of words weird from time to time.