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by IshKebab 3354 days ago
QUIC doesn't just send data straight over UDP without making sure it arrives.

You should probably at least vaguely understand how it works before criticising it.

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I wrote and maintained an IP/UDP stack for an expensive, reliable, industrial packet radio, so you should back off your presumptive, elitist tone.

Sure, they maintain a control TCP channel like ftp but that's a normal pattern. Falling back to other protocols is a necessity because some environments literally lock down everything apart from ARP, DHCP, DNS, HTTP/S and email.

Writing an application-level protocol to make UDP act like TCP or SCTP is a sign of failure to fix issues lower down.

Worse, UDP often gets dropped first when a network is saturated, and it's harder troubleshoot to because it's not connection-oriented stateful and doesn't work with existing tools... debugging now requires nonstandard knowledge inside an app. (Turning a browser into an OS is a metastasizing cancer.)

There are better ways to solve efficient, low-latency content distribution and bidirectional state RPC without reinventing everything every other year.