[jackvalentine]

Kids are a part of society, and society has a stake in what kind of adult they become.

In the same way drug addicts are society's problem, or unemployed people are society's problem, or sociopathic second generation rich never-worked-a-day drunk drivers are society's problem.

This isn't to say that you'll be conscripted in to a psudo-parent role against your will, but they are your responsibility as a member of society in a very abstract way.

[lacampbell]

In that case, I revoke my membership to society. I have my own problems.

[jackvalentine]

You can do so by moving out in to the middle of nowhere and becoming a self-sufficient hermit.

Anything less and sorry, but you're a part of society.

[lacampbell]

who are you to tell an individual what responsibilities they have, and to try and make outcasts of people who don't want them?

I don't have to move anywhere to absolve myself of the responsibility to strangers.

[jackvalentine]

I don't think that you quite understand the point I'm making?

By taking part in every day life, using civil infrastructure, having contact with other people you're a part of society with all that goes with that.

It logically follows that the only way to extricate yourself from the situation is to leave society and all the benefits it brings. There are people who have done that!

However I don't see how you can possibly do so and have the convenience of a doctor available when you're sick, coffee sold by the cup and roads on which for you to drive. These are physical and organisational manifestations of 'society'.

By remaining in proximity and contact of other humans you're their responsibility and they are yours.

It's fine to want out but that does need to come with a realisation of what benefits you draw from societal organisation and what you'll need to lose to withdraw from the uninvited, unwritten, yet tangible 'bargain' that society represents.

I'm trying to picture what remaining with other people yet rejecting 'society' theoretically looks like and I can only see it as a kind of parasitic relationship. When aware of parasites humans have a tendency to try and kill or remove them. After all, you would be rejecting all the protections legal and otherwise that society offers its members.

[lacampbell]

By remaining in proximity and contact of other humans you're their responsibility and they are yours.

I reject this completely. That's your reality, not mine.

[jackvalentine]

Please respond to the rest of my post, not just the weakest line.