[davidf18]

A 24/365 Apple Store is a signal about how cool and new technologically vibrant NYC is ...we need it and use it 24/365. Repairs as well as purchases 24/365.

Number of Apple Stores in Manhattan = 7 (incl. one 24/365)

Number of Apple Stores in NYC 5 Boroughs = 10

Number of stores Paris (incl. La Defense) = 4

Number of stores London = 5

Number of stores Berlin = 1

Jazz/Blues/all kinds of music, a city open 24/7 full of creative vibrancy. 40% of New Yorkers not born in USA. We don't do BrExit here forcing (legal) residents out.

NYC has a 24 hour subway system which costs about $120 / month for unlimited rides. London and Paris shut down their subways at 12:30 AM. Thus, NYC is more committed to green, not forcing people to use gas guzzlers at night.

[indemnity]

Have you been to any Asian cities in the last two decades? NYC has its perks, but the subway systems of Tokyo, Shanghai, and Seoul make the MTA look pretty shabby.

These cities are also 24/7, to a greater extent than any Western city, I would argue.

[davidf18]

> "These cities are also 24/7, to a greater extent than any Western city, I would argue."

Have you really been to NYC? Jazz, Blues, much other music, etc.

No 24/365 Apple Store in Asia.

# Apple Stores Tokyo = 4

# Apple Stores Shanghai = 7

# Apple Stores Seoul = 0 (Possible 1 in future)

# Apple Stores NYC = 10 including the 24/365 store

[nojvek]

OMG! you really like your Apple stores don't you? Apple stores say nothing about the vibrancy of the city. It basically states that the city mindlessly practices American consumerism that Apple needs 24/365 stores to keep up with demand.

My experience of New York was tall buildings, narrow streets with garbage on the sidewalks, ridiculously expensive rents, homelessness on streets, lots of people walking around but very few actually willing to have a conversation. I enjoyed the street food and it was a great experience but I would chose a number of places around the world over New York for a company trip.

[davidf18]

> "OMG! you really like your Apple stores don't you?"

Well, with a 24/365 store I sleep easier at night knowing that if I need another unit or in person assistance when on a tight deadline I can get one. :-)

Also, Apple products, Macs, iPhones, iPads, are the tools of choice for the creative industries (media, photo, fashion, software development, much engineering, ....) and so number of stores and a 24/365 store is an index of creativity and vibrancy.

A couple of years ago at the 24/365 store I was told by an Apple Genius Bar person that the sales volume of that store alone is nearly that of the Macy's on 34th which takes an entire city block and that Macy's is the largest store in America.

> "My experience of New York was tall buildings, narrow streets..."

Well, I guess it depends on one's frame of reference. For me, NYC has an energy of its people -- 40% were not even born in the US and have come to make their way in NYC/America. I am always meeting new nice people in coffee shops who are living in NYC and from all over the world. The UN Building is in NYC, but NYC is the UN in itself.

Did you check out the blues/jazz throughout the city but especially in Greenwich Village? The large assortment of museums? The delis with corned beef and pastrami?, other sorts of ethnic foods?

Perhaps if when you return to NYC you meet up with someone who knows the city and you'll feel better.

[tripzilch]

Sounds like you like NYC a lot because it does many things the way they do it in NYC, way more than any other place that is NYC.

Which is a bit circular if you're trying to convince anyone else, but as a personal opinion that works fine (I'm serious, you like this sort of thing, good for you. Not so good for the homeless, which you just rather blatantly ignored--ouch--but hey there's probably worse places in the world so ehm yeah! good for you!).

Apple is not nearly as popular in Europe as it is in the US. Software development and engineering, definitely not. Graphics design, sure, but I feel that'll change soon. Sound design / music producing, I'd say about 50/50, but they'll just use both a Windows machine and a Mac in their studio because they like to have the best tools (and VSTs) of both.

> Well, with a 24/365 store I sleep easier at night knowing that if I need another unit or in person assistance when on a tight deadline I can get one. :-)

Not having tight deadlines at night so frequently that I'd need a 24/7 store is what'd make me sleep easier, personally.

[davidf18]

Not attempting to convince, because no convincing necessary. I'd say most open source software development and all iOS development is done on Macs which now leads Linux for that use.

Of course, if Microsoft keeps improving the Linux WSL (newest Win10 Creators update adds a lot -- still more to go) it will be a very viable competitor.

Europe is very beautiful, but all of the energy is in the US. This morning I met a couple of Danish women visiting NYC and they love the energy of NYC and the idea of working in a startup / Silicon Valley type environment.

For certain, NYC is not for everyone, but for many, myself included (and those Danish women) NYC just feels so energetic and interesting.

As for deadlines it is the nature of much work...some failures happen at night or holidays when stores are generally closed.

[shimon_e]

Shanghai is not 24/7. They have night time curfew.

[dkersten]

That doesn't mean Shanghai is less popular, since the 24/7-ness is limited because of the curfew, not due to lack of popularity.

[QuarterReptile]

NYC's vibrancy is largely a product of its environment, not proof of a better city. In the US, but for a few cities that mostly defeated planners'attempts to suburbanize them (NYC included), all our towns and cities are largely shit. The better ones have a couple of blocks of places worth being, but those are mostly choked in webs of car-dominated hellscape. If you want to go to a place that's decent, for most people, you have to drive. So why not drive into NYC and make a weekend of it? This NYC is very crowded because it's a shining beacon in a pile of disasters.

By comparison, every place you can reach within an hour or two of Paris probably is a place worth being. (This was my experience in Madrid, and I'm extrapolating here for Paris.) That's a lot less pressure forcing people into the city center, because people can enjoy themselves much closer to where they live.

You take 24 hour Apple stores as a sign of vibrancy. I'd sooner look at the density of independent bakeries.

As to your subway comment, your conclusion is absurd. It seems likely to me that the savings from having fewer redundant tracks (which would be needed to facilitate maintenance in a 24 hour system) would more than offset the small demand for middle-of-the-night trips that can't wait until the next morning.

[tripzilch]

In all fairness, if you'd close your subways for part of the night, how will you keep your schizophrenic people out of sight? (sorry I mean, homeless, yes that's the root of their issues, obviously, the mumbling, drooling, rocking back and forth, all side-effects of homelessness clearly)

Ah, such memories of my visit to that vibrant city ...

[S4M]

> We don't do BrExit here forcing (legal) residents out.

How about the Muslims?

[InitialLastName]

We'll take them.

Among their many other contributions to the city, the Halal food trucks are a center-point of NYC's late night culture.

[davidf18]

Please cite a reference where Muslims who are living in the US legally were forced out of the country.

[S4M]

Well, not forced out of the country, but Muslims visa holders were denied entry in the US on their way back from holidays:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trum...

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/bring-niki-mossafe...

And HN discussion of the previous link:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13509509

[davidf18]

My understanding of BrExit is that Britain is asking people who have lived there for years to leave.

It is not all Muslim Visa holders, but from 7 countries that were determined by the Obama Administration to be a security risk to the US because they don't do adequate screening at their airports. For example, Turks can come to the US as can Muslims from Israel or anywhere else except those 7 countries.

The Visa issue is regrettable, but it is only temporary and the people will eventually be able to return. Those in the US can remain here and not asked to leave as in the case of BrExit.