[terrestrial]

KDE and Gnome are both really good nowadays, but Ubuntu is a buggy piece of shit. I've helped friends install it a couple of times recent years, and seen various desktop program crashes every time. It wasn't like this back in the Gnome2 days.

What we really need is Red Hat to start selling Fedora computers. And KDE Neon to ship laptops based on Debian stable. And obviously at least one big retailer to have them in a physical store, so we tell our friends where to go.

[rantanplan]

A Fedora "leap" release, same as with OpenSUSE Leap, with a 3 year support cycle would be the ultimate system for me.

I've been using Fedora for the last 7-8 years, but I have to upgrade every 13-14 months or so. And CentOS is not suited for a modern development/workstation environment.

[lima]

I like it. Fedora upgrades are mostly painless and 3 year support cycles means more outdated software.

[rantanplan]

Yes I like it too, but think farther ahead.

Why is Ubuntu the defacto supported Linux distro? Why is,quite often, steam so difficult to install, while it's a breeze to install on Ubuntu?

You can't expect people to consider you as a legitimate target if you're constantly moving :(

[kirushik]

Why not OpenSUSE Leap then?

[rantanplan]

As an experiment I have OpenSUSE leap on my workstation(while Fedora on my laptop).

I can't say bad things about it, except that it's quite often that you can't find packages for various applications. A random example would be spotify, that was one of my last adventures to make it work(I got tired and gave up after a while).

And Fedora/RH has a lot more momentum in general and you can be certain that it will be around for as long as Linux is a thing I guess :)

Suse has gone through various struggles and it doesn't inspire much confidence to me anymore.

[lima]

Same on servers. So many bugs - very small bugs mostly, but at once it gets annoying.