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by geekifier 3356 days ago
> as non-US, I would always choose such a wonderful and welcoming country and great people over police state of US these days

The US certainly has many issues, but I find calling it a "Police State", while praising the Islamic Republic of Iran in the same sentence quite ironic.

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Then educate thyself. Besides all the anedotal evidence of police militirazation, violence, the USA has THE largest prison population in the world and almost the highest % of population in prison, #2 (after seychelles) with 693 per 100k. Iran is way down list at #37 with 287.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarcera...

Also, the way Iran is today (i.e. not the progressive democratic country it was) is due to the UK/USA replacing elected government with a religious autocrat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

I suppose if the US simply executed criminals at the rate Iran does, we would have a lower population as well.

We could also lower the number of people incarnated if we had public lashings instead, as Iran does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran

> We could also lower the number of people incarnated if we had public lashings instead, as Iran does.

And hanging people from cranes in public squares...

> The US certainly has many issues, but I find calling it a "Police State", while praising the Islamic Republic of Iran in the same sentence quite ironic.

you mean, praising it as a tourist destination? How's that even controversial? Iran is an absolutely enchanting place to visit.

Now, agreed that calling the US a "police state .. these days" is still quite an exaggeration, but notice the context - the absolutely shocking, police-state-like US visa policy, mentioned in the prior sentence!

You only have to weaken the premise a bit to make it a perfectly sensible claim (and perhaps a bit of rethorical hyperbole is excusable?) : If the authoritarian behavior of the US government forces one to chose between visiting a place as beautiful as Iran, and visiting the US, surely that's an easy choice!

Heavily militarized SWAT vs mongrel basijis. Sadly few are truly free from the heavy hand of authoritarianism.