[kgu]

I probably shouldn't have posted that, but "social justice warrior" is a pejorative for actual good reason. It refers specifically to people who don't genuinely care about justice, and are rather interested in shoving everyone in society into categories at the expense of individuality, policing language with offense and outrage, and creating a culture where name-calling with labels like bigot, racist, etc. are treated as compelling arguments by appealing to a sense of tribal identity—all in the name of justice.

[openasocket]

Regardless, it's still name-calling. It doesn't further any real argument, and comes across as immature. From my perspective, calling someone a "SJW" is the same as calling them a "libtard".

[kgu]

Yeah, that's true.

[Apocryphon]

Our purpose is not to impugn the courts, but to emancipate them from a position where they stand in the way of social justice, and to emancipate the people in an orderly way from the inequity of enforced submission to a doctrine which would turn constitutional provisions, which were intended to favor social justice and advancement, into prohibitions against such justice and advancement."

-- Teddy Roosevelt http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/site/c.elKSIdOWIiJ8H/b.9263...

[tomlock]

>and creating a culture where name-calling with labels

Interesting.

[kgu]

I don't mean to be sensitive; is the suggestion that I did this somewhere, and am thus missing the irony?

[tomlock]

Yeah, you blanket bombed those reacting negatively to uber with name-calling in your now flagged post.

[dpark]

Do you really not think that "sjw" is a pejorative label?

[kgu]

I think it's needlessly mocking, but it is not a label: it has an actual definition, and I'd consider anyone who used the word outside that definition to be using it incorrectly. It refers to a specific set of behaviors. Bigot and racist used to not be labels, until people started applying the terms to everything.

[dpark]

You're trying to be pedantic and failing. "labels like bigot, racist, etc." have actual definitions, too. Your use of the term "sjw" is just hypocritical. It has no more of a clear definition than "racist". It just happens to suit your narrative.

[kgu]

Well, fair enough, you're right that SJW can be used as a label too.

My original flagged comment was actually "The invigorating fervor of social justice"; I didn't use the term "SJW." It was a sassy thing I wrote because I thought it was funny how the obvious comment that took no courage to write was shooting to the top as usual. I was making fun of people with who post passionate, rallying cries in the spirit of "we must stand our ground," knowing full well they're on a message board that will congratulate them for it, and, while they're at it, being rather boring.

As for my SJW comment, I was explaining to tomlock why people use "social justice" negatively. I should've added "e.g." before "social justice warrior."

[tomlock]

You're arguing that "sjw" isn't a label????

Things with definitions aren't labels???

[drspacemonkey]

The earliest reference I could find to the term was a fiction novel from the 90s that described people who chose causes based on how it would benefit their social standing.

[malandrew]

What's the name of that novel?

[drspacemonkey]

I Couldn't Care Less by Tim Dugdale