[fknop]

Meanwhile, we're still waiting for those "pro-native" people to give us better user experience.

I agree that Electron has its issue like having multiple copies of Chromium (and not Google Chrome).

Obviously native apps are better overall, but only if they provide a better UX. Being a vscode user, I don't know which native editor provides the same UX.

[nonsince]

Emacs provides a better UX, Visual Studio (proper) provides a better UX, Sublime provides something close, although not as good. Slack's UX is incredibly basic. It's a couple of steps above a basic CRUD app. There are billions of IRC and XMPP clients ranging from toy to professional-quality, I use IRSSI, which is admittedly basic, but I find it hard to believe that there is no better native chat UX in existence than Slack's.

[foldr]

>Emacs provides a better UX

VSCode is clearly aimed at people who disagree with this statement. It's hardly a matter of objective fact.

[Longhanks]

There are native editors reaching from very bare bones (vim) to medium like VS Code (Sublime) to full IDE (Visual Studio). All of those run native interfaces.

[lobster_johnson]

Sublime is a hybrid. It has its own renderer that doesn't use Cocoa on macOS, for example, and I believe its input fields aren't native, either.

"Native" should mean that it uses native UI widgets offered by the platform itself, which hardly any editor does.