[seanmcdirmid]

Why are we limiting ourselves just to the states? Markets like China with severe traffic and parking problems and authoritarian governments to push through changes are more likely to adopt self driving cars than developed markets with plenty of roads and parking.

[77pt77]

Good luck having a machine driving in the absolutely chaotic Chinese traffic.

I've seen full size buses driving at night on low visibility with lights off.

Bikes just doing illegal 90 degree sharp turns against oncoming traffic.

Pedestrians crossing 5 lane roads frogger style.

You name it...

[seanmcdirmid]

Ya, it seems like the last place! But the need is strong, the will is there. Baidu and many other Chinese companies are making big self drive car investments.

Self driving cars are just a toy in the USA, but in china they could optimize infrastructure that is extremely limited and unable to grow to meet demand. They are also not above changing the rules as needed (like when they put up fences in our office so we couldn't easily cross the street to our other building, all in the name of keeping pedistrians off what was otherwise a very untrafficed road.

[Ma8ee]

I think that was Gurley's point. In many Asian countries the need is greater and the ability to sue lower, so self driving cars will be on public roads much earlier than in the US.