[renesd]

The vue looks good.

Yeah, Vue.js is for people who make things. React is for enterprises who don't seem to mind being 3 months late shipping basic stuff.

In react everything is done in the template language. It's a sort of reverse template language, that doesn't even really use proper html for things. So weird.

Vue is just all together, and is based on web standards. Not a weird thing by facebook enterprise developers who think that documents are dead and everything should be a slow loading monster single page thingo. Vue does components properly.

React components aren't. They tell you to move state from the child to the parents. That's not a component, and probably one of the biggest reasons many of the react projects are giant messes.

React is sort of like the old enterprise thing that doesn't solve any of the real issues with Angular style frameworks.

React does have a pretty good marketing budget though. Lots of evangelists paid to talk it up. Plus lots of developers who have invested so much time learning useless non-standard framework stuff. Also, there's plenty of freelance gigs cleaning up failed messy react projects.

[bshimmin]

Ah, so jQuery spaghetti has now been replaced by React messes. I can also contribute that I've seen some Angular abominations and - a year or two back - some baleful Backbone projects. It's almost like whatever the framework or the library you give developers to use, regardless of its quality or scope, they're capable of making a mess with it! Hard to imagine, I know.

[boubiyeah]

And likewise, you can/could do some excellent coding with 0 framework :D

[dentemple]

My spaghetti requires no extra seasoning

[renesd]

Except Vue projects seem to be succeeding. This is good for clients, but bad for freelancers getting paid lots to clean up messes.

The good components, and the docs are the biggest reasons. But also it's a very well thought through thing based on web specs, using html technology. People can get useful work done almost right away, and what they made is self contained by default, limiting their damage. It also works for the document case, AND the single page app case. Want to make a landing page that converts well? Vue has your back. Want to use that one jQuery plugin, because it's awesome... Vue can do that easily - it plays nice with others.

React should copy it more, and copy web standards more.

[trylist]

Speaking of evangelists...

[renesd]

I'm happily cleaning up react messes :) As my dads plumber friend used to say... "There's money in shit!".

Fair cop. Not sure why I'm participating in a JavaScript framework internet discussion. I wish people would concentrate on standards, and apps.

[Bahamut]

I personally have to refrain from commenting a lot of times - the arguments that happen tend to be the equivalent of video game console flame wars.

[HighlandSpring]

What component library do you recommend for Vue?

[zodiac]

> React components aren't. They tell you to move state from the child to the parents.

You don't have to do that if you don't want to - I don't in the react I write. Is there anything special about vue components which would allow you to keep state in child components in vue but force you to move the state to parent components in react?