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by mindcreek 5859 days ago
The main problem here is not the offending video or else, the main problem is there is a monopoly in Turkish internet backbone and youtube users in Turkey use half of the total bandwidth , They dont want to improve their backbone so they are covering their behinds by banning the site with the most traffic. It's not about politics it's about money :)

And believe me I know this is my job.

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If you are indeed an ISP as your profile says, your job would be to reroute the wrongly banned traffic so that it does not get dropped by Turk Telekom. Advertise it here, and I would switch to your services. The law doesn't prevent you from laying the cable.
This is utterly ridiculous. But in the same time you have a bit right here. First of all, these blockages are ordered by a law no 5651. They are mostly ordered and applied by judges via isps. Some of the blockages are not based on judge jurisdiction but by government organisation telecommunication and communication precidency. Ridiculous thing is they are full ip based level 3 or level 7 dns-ip diversion blockages. So by blocking a ip blocks they are also blocking "innocent by law" applications or sites. Virtual hosting like same ip different applications are not considered by law or by isp's. (well main isp responsible is Turk Telecom Net cause they have internet monopoly in Turkey). The thing you are right is they have accidentally the whole internet! By blocking google ips. And I do not believe TTnet has this much idiot engineers or admins. They sure have some background agenda by making these "mistakes"
I understand that you are implying, that as an ISP owner you have received no instructions from the government to further impose IP level restrictions on YouTube. That is how you would know.

Now, as an ISP owner, if you only use Turk Telekom (current "Ma Bell" of Turkey) as your backbone, then you also did nothing to improve your own backbone. Then you would also be guilty of the same flaw you mentioned.

But on the off chance that you actually do have your own fast backbone and the most likely chance that there are no restrictions on Google's sites other than YouTube... Today is the day, you should be advertising, by word of mouth, by _anything_ that how we can reach all the sites if we use your ISP.

If not, it is not really _your_ job.

I completely agree. The sad fact is while countries like India built great Internet infrastucture in the past, Turkey has lagged in this regard. Many users and companies have to live with a slow connection. Sudden connection failures are not uncommon. This is one major reason why Turkey's Internet-based business has lagged greatly behind, compared to other sectors (the other major one being that there is no reliable, cheap postal service in Turkey, like in the US).