[lliiffee]

I think you're making the argument that with more guns, countries tend to have fewer gun deaths per gun. This makes sense, casually. However, I doubt that anyone cares about the number of gun murders per gun, but rather the total number of gun murders, which is (please correct me if wrong) still correlated with more guns.

Also, I see that you've focused the discussion on gun murders, which is fine, but we should note that decreased gun ownership does lead to far fewer gun deaths, mostly by reducing suicides.

[sathackr]

Does it matter what weapon the murder/suicide was committed with?

Yes, fewer guns mean fewer gun deaths -- but does it mean fewer deaths in general?

If fewer people own Honda Civics, then fewer people will die in Honda Civic accidents. But that dip in Honda Civic deaths would likely be absorbed into deaths by all other car models, such that the overall death rate remains the same.

[mattmanser]

Overall suicides significantly reduce as suicide is easier to do on impulse with a gun.

[talmand]

Depends on the culture; Japan has high suicide rates but low gun ownership.

[vertex-four]

Not if it's easier (psychologically, practically, whatever) to kill someone with a Honda Civic than other cars, of course.

[InitialLastName]

Suicide is one of those clubs where we, as a society, probably have an ethical compulsion to increase the barrier to entry.