[mschuster91]

The risk is mass murder. Nazis have murdered over 200 people in the last two decades alone in Germany.

In Chechenya, only two days ago homophobes murdered at the very least three homosexual people, arrested over a hundred - and credible activists fear for much worse numbers.

Fascist and reactionary ideologies always lead to death.

[komali2]

Germany has the type of strict controls on free speech I think you're looking for (it's illegal to be a nazi, attend nazi rallies, etc), and yet they still have the hate crimes of which you speak.

There's no evidence that type of control really does anything to help.

EDIT: as always, am I being downvoted because I said something disagreeable, or because I said something wrong? If I am saying wrong things, please tell me so I don't continue to do so.

[nyolfen]

> and yet they still have the hate crimes of which you speak.

exactly. all you do is drive it underground, and nothing solidifies ingroup identity like persecution. with free expression you can at least tell who these people are.

[jakebasile]

How many people are killed by the Islamic state? I don't think they have strong free speech protection there.

Free speech and evil are not causal links.

[joemi]

Restriction of free speech is a tool of fascist regimes. You don't fight fascism by becoming a fascist yourself.

[baobabKoodaa]

A hammer is a tool of fascist regimes as well. Doesn't mean you become a fascist by using a hammer. (For what its's worth, I support free speech as well. I just don't support poor arguments.)

[joemi]

A hammer is also a tool of non-fascist regimes, though. Is restriction of free speech also a tool of non-fascist regimes?

[btdiehr]

Are you sure you don't support poor arguments?

[thinkmassive]

murder is already illegal