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by generic_user
3367 days ago
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I don't work on phone software as was explained. And POSIX is still very widely used and important in many industries. People have been attacking POSIX almost as long as C/C++. But unsurprisingly no one has put forward anything that could replace it. Given the fact that you don't seem to care that the OS or system libraries are written in C/C++. And you don't care that there are industries that produce C/C++ software that have nothing to do with mobile and more closely resembles system programming. Who exactly is the internet safety strike force trying to evangelize? And more importantly why do you feel the need to lecture developers in other industries on what language they should use even tho you have no experience or stake in those industries? It just annoys people and makes them less likely to try the new meme language. And makes the internet safety strike force look like armatures with to much time on there hands. You don't see C/C++ programmers running around the internet brigading functional programming languages with nonsense. Even tho most of those languages are total crap. Maybe we are to busy trying to write software. Maybe that's why everything is written in C/C++? |
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Second, my issue is with C not C++. C++ is one of my favorite systems programming languages, only spoiled by C copy-paste compatibility, which gets abused by C refugees using a C++ compiler.
I never cared for POSIX, because I always had access to rich C++ libraries, Turbo Vision on MS-DOS, OWL, MFC and ATL on Windows, Motif++ on UNIX and so on.
Windows 3.1 was already doing perfectly fine with C for Win32 SDK, with everything else being done in C++, Turbo Pascal, Delphi and VB.
It was the rise of UNIX, FOSS culture tied to C that changed the wind on C++ sails.
Thankfully Microsoft has decided that C++ is the only system programming language worth keeping and anyone that still wants to use C can keep using gcc and clang instead.
At least there is no place for C in UWP, unless for those that enjoy doing bare COM calls.
As for running around the internet, I guess you are too young, back in the day the C vs C++ flame wars were fought on BBS, USENET or even Teletext messaging boards.
Not everything is (thankfully) written in C, specially in the enterprise world where Java, .NET and C++ rule.
It is also very positive that ANSI C++ working group is turning C++ into a systems programming language with batteries, instead of relying on whatever OS APIs are available.
As for me, I have done my contribution to the world, by not writing a single line of C code since 2002.
The tools of trade are Java, .NET and C++.
One day C++ might get replaced by (Go, Swift, D, Rust, Ada), but currently C++17 as a helper language to Java and .NET, for my line of work, is good enough.
Of course by using RAII, no pre-processor beyond #include, std::string, std::vector, std::array, enum classes, references, templates, std::unique_ptr, , std::shared_ptr, and not a single line of C like coding other than as FFI to third party libraries.