[mirage01]

What I'm saying is you're deflecting the responsibility of creating ideal feminist societies back onto women to make it palatable to you, which goes against anything I've ever learned about responsibility and accountability after someone(women) tells you(men) something's wrong.

[TheAdamAndChe]

I understand what you're saying, but what I'm trying to say is that your approach is wrong. You're fighting fire with fire, and making an environment hostile to men in an attempt to make things equal for women. You won't win support by doing that. If we are to break down the barriers to equality, we must behave in a manner that will foster an equal environment for _both_ sexes.