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by donlzx 3370 days ago
This scenario scare the hell out of me. Is injecting/intercepting brain signals directly really the way forward? Do we really want to create monster human species?

IMHO, future AI should be used to enhance human cognitives in a noninvasive way. Never in such a dystopian way as in the movie "The Matrix".

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> Do we really want to create monster human species.

1. Many humans today are already "monsters" compared to what was considered normal a few hundred years ago. You could spin a simple hip replacement or bone marrow transfer as "Frankenstein-ian" if you wanted to.

2. If AI becomes vastly more intelligent than non-"monsterified" humans, then the question may become: "Do you really want the human race to be enslaved / extinct instead of creating a monster human species?"

Almost all advancements come with pros/cons and teething issues. How we implement and the the rules around it are key. I like to believe having someone like Musk at the forefront will be helpful. In the same way have to fight for privacy and free speech, the fight for privacy and free thought will surely be an issue as this tech develops. So many positive and negative possibilities here.
Eh. Brain stem, reptile brain, mammal brain, primate brain, neocortex, cybercortex.

Half my mind is already in cyberspace, why not make it half my brain, too?

Edit: Dystopias don't come from technologies, they come from people being shitty.

I am fine with using computers, mobile devices, VR/AR, etc. as long as I have the ability to disconnect and walk away, fix or replace.

What happens with the equivalent of drive-by ransomware on your brain? Send bitcoin to this address or we permanently give you a migraine?

Make the part that can interact with the outside world removable. Only keep the mesh and the external connection, which could (maybe?) be stateless, since (maybe) it would just be all the mesh connection points. Nothing to "hack" (without physical access), nothing to persist the hack.
we can invent new technologies, but we can't stop people from being shitty.

(OTOH we're talking about a technology that could potentially directly modify human psyche, so even that isn't clear anymore :))

> we can invent new technologies, but we can't stop people from being shitty.

Since it's this that is the primary reason that all of the next generation of technologies are incredibly dangerous existential risks, and is related to why other mitigations for existential risks are underfunded compared to the grand projects of being shitty to each other, it seems to me that fixing this should be the main priority of human research.

It involves coming up with at least workable answers to a lot of difficult questions and is a bit of an ethical minefield, but if you believe, as I am inclined to that the alternative is extinction, it seems pretty important to at least make a stab at it.

> Is injecting/intercepting brain signals directly really the way forward? Do we really want to create monster human species?

It will happen, whatever is your personal point of view (or fears) on that subject. In 20y or 200y (or maybe later), but that will happen. Technology is going forward no matter what you think and vote, because there will always be that kind of people that can't stand living a 'standard' life. Go check the Myers–Briggs on personnality types: not everybody is a mainstream xFxJ ('earnest traditionalists who enjoy keeping their lives and environments well-regulated' as wikipedia says).

The real questions are: what pourcentage of humanity will go that way, and how well will humans/neohumans cohabitate.

I don't think there's a big difference from what we do now. Right now we use our hands or speech combined with phone/glasses/watches/computer as tools to communicate with the internet/information. This technology would just cut out the middleman. It would create a lot of interesting opportunities and combined with VR would create extraordinary worlds.
Only way to have enough bandwidth (for a varying definition of enough I guess) is to interface directly with the brain. Doing that non invasively is much more difficult.
There are so many fundamental philosophy of the brain type questions that need to be answered first before we can assume there will be a workable way to get this tech to enhance our thinking or brain power.
I'm thinking more along the lines of Deus Ex.
Why?