[ctvo]

If only they told you their exact business model in every interview. Maybe this will help though:

  Our initial direction wasn’t the direction we ended up going in. 
  I was interested in building tools for podcasters. Then when
  we started to talking to podcasters we realized that podcasters 
  just want listeners and data about those listeners. Just providing good tools 
  didn’t really solve that problem. So we shifted focus to work on
  the user app first.

[DenisM]

Did you have to be snarky about it?

[sebleon]

Probably didn't have to, but chose to for any one of many reasons.