[bernardlunn]

If Uber really needs self driving cars to become a viable business, that seems like a hail mary pass. Agree, this not just about culture probs.

[beager]

At their proposed scale, yes. There's another version of reality where Uber can massively scale back and become profitable, but that screws over a ton of investors, and causes an almost complete turnover. At that point, Uber is a much smaller, and really unsexy company.