[shakna]

> Formalization and proofing is what MATTERS. If you ain't got that, you're basically just guessing

And that's what makes Haskell evangelists intolerable. (Even if Haskell isn't your favourite language).

Go has it's place.

C has it too, especially on devices with > 32kb memory.

I adore Scheme and it's spec, it's expressiveness, and flexibility. Doesn't mean I think it's the best language for running a game engine, though it has been done.

We all have reasons we like our languages, and what they can be, and what they're good for.

But no language is the be-all, and end-all, of languages. There are always trade-offs. It just can't be helped.

Awk is amazing at dealing with small bits of information, quickly. It's a full language, that has been used to write some large programs... But it isn't as well suited to that. As a scripting language however, it's great.

Python is my go-to for prototyping. It can be a tad inconsistent, and more verbose than my tastes, and weaker typing than I'd like, but it works well enough.

Can't we all just get along?

[jfoutz]

C is glorious. After a bunch of years screwing around with a bunch of different languages, I believe popularity is an indicator of local optima. C hit so many important points, it became critical. I think it blew its competition away, 40 years ago.

Go people have a point. Haskell people have a point. Their points aren't as strong as c's was, back in the day, so they don't dominate in the way c did.

We don't have a clear winner right now. Different languages bring different things. We are in another exploration phase of languages.

[shakna]

C has so many decisions that feel odd, but make so much sense! (Yes, I love C).

I'm in the process of building a tiny programming language for some Arduinos, as part of a homebrew computer.

I'm making the memory space as a stack.

But how to have a variable know it's location in the stack?

Return an int! Oh, I just reinvented the typeless pointer C has.

PLT exploration is fun, exciting, and love reading about experiments like Magpie and Wren.

But... I still use C99 at work every day, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[Insanity]

> C has it too, especially on devices with > 32kb memory.

Can I assume you mean, devices with < 32kb memory? Or is there another language you would use on devices with such as small amount of memory instead of C?

[adrianratnapala]

The local assembler? Fortran? Forth?

Personally I would prefer C. But I can see arguments for each of the above.

[shakna]

Sorry, less than.

100 > 32.