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by hga 5862 days ago
My strong bias is towards getting the technical background.

If you have that, partnering with more technical people is a lot more likely to work, otherwise the only possible posture that works is blind trust, which most people aren't capable of.

However this is coming from the son of a businessman who started reading his Wall Street Journal in 3rd grade, so I've found partnering with business people to be easy (amusingly, in many of the startups I've worked for I've helped the point man procuring office space, since unless you have a background in that area you e.g. have no idea how slow the real estate clock cycle is).

To finish, when you think of the historical hardware and software long term superstars many if not most were founded and lead by at least one person with serious technical chops, perhaps even uber-salesman Larry Ellison of Oracle.

Obvious examples are Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos of Amazon, the founders of Google and the Chairman/CEO they picked, Ken Olsen of DEC, H&P of HP and I'm sure I'm forgetting many others.

Tom Watson, Jr., who saved IBM with his massively successful push into computers, is the most famous exception to this pattern ... but seeing that he grew up in the predecessor punched card industry and undoubtedly absorbed a lot of technical stuff including most especially attitudes he's got to be a special case.

As you probably know, the list of technical companies ruined by non-techie leaders is nearly infinite, but it's balanced at least in part by techies not getting the business side of things. Can any of you think of major counterexamples of complete non-techies who massively succeeded over a long term, including retaining their initial key technical people?

Steve Jobs is the only one I can think of off the top of my head (and he fails the retention test, e.g. he burned out the Macintosh development team, didn't he?) but he clearly has unique relevant design talents that make him a special case.

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I've said this before, but: People only think Steve Jobs is a "non-techie" because he went into business with Woz, next to whom almost anybody would have looked like a non-techie.
To the extent I've studied this, which has very little to do with Woz, he doesn't pass my threshold of "techie".

Your mileage will vary and my information is woefully incomplete, but on the other hand I sure don't think he's in the league of any of the techies I cited, although I'm willing to believe he's significantly more technical than Thomas Watson, Jr. was and perhaps a bit more than Larry Ellison is (don't know much about that aspect of the latter).

Jobs was an electronics hobbyist at the time he met Woz--in fact, that's how they met. While it's true that Jobs wasn't as talented as Woz, that's the reason he gave it up.
What exactly is your threshold of "techie"?
In this context, the beginning would be designing, building and debugging (getting to work) a "serious" digital circuit or piece of software. Woz's analog work, e.g. the critical switching power supply for the Apple, is a bit beyond that.

I'm not sure how to define the threshold for a digital circuit in those days (that's not my field, for one thing, and the Lisp Machine ones I was vaguely familiar with are huge in comparison to a personal computer of that era).

For software, I'm not sure how to define it in words, but "I know it when I see it" ^_^. Certainly more than "a few thousand lines of C code" ... maybe, it depends on the code. More than you're generally required to do to get an EE (sic) degree....

However, for Jobs, as far as I know he hasn't come close to the thresholds in either domain. Famously, he hired Woz to do that block of Atari digital design work, and as for software, I'm not aware of any programs he's written, and there's these tidbits for backup:

Woz: "Steve jobs never programmed in his life." (http://davidweiss.blogspot.com/2006/10/woz-at-microsoft.html)

This one may be folklore but it's just too fun not to include:

"It's a pleasure to meet you, Professor Knuth," Steve said. "I've read all of your books."

"You're full of shit," Knuth responded.

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&s...