[FanaHOVA]

Was HN built today? :) In both cases, you are talking about websites were there's minimal interaction with the website and all you do is read. While that's ok for certain kinds of products, it's not for all of them. So I think we agree that design doesn't make the software, but most devs are used to having weird interfaces and interactions that aren't always clear to normal users. (I'm saying this as a full stack dev myself while looking at the colleagues that I've worked with in the past/present)

[mawburn]

It sounds like you're talking about UX. There is quite a bit of intersect, but you can have fantastic UX and still be aesthetically gross. You can't have a weird interface that doesn't make sense and still claim to have a good user experience.

And on the other side, an app can be aesthetically beautiful and total have crap UX, which is too common with a lot of startuppy products.