[kcdev]

When it is time for fundraising, is it possible to just create a new C-Corp, then sell the assets of the LLC to the C-Corp? Are there major tax implications? Is it possible to sell the assets for a $1? Or would that be in violation of some tax rule?

[jasode]

As one example, the first Facebook business entity was a Florida LLC. Mark Zuckerberg then created a new Delaware based C-Corp that bought the IP from the LLC.

I believe the original trigger for converting to a C-Corp was the Peter Thiel investment.

[tedunangst]

If you buy something for less than it's worth, you have to book the difference as income. Not much difference between buying $1000 widget for $1 and buying it for $1000 and then getting paid $999.

[uiri]

No cash is needed to sell the assets or LLC to the C Corp.

Most likely, you would sell the assets of the LLC to the C Corp in exchange for some number of shares (valued at the pre-money valuation of the company) and then issue additional shares equal to the VC money such that the total value of the new C Corp is the post-money valuation.

Afterwards, the founders can distribute the shares and wind up the LLC.

The alternative is for the founders to sell the LLC to the C Corp for shares and then the C Corp can wind up the LLC.

[nthj]

I'm asking out of curiosity (e.g. I have no need to pay a lawyer or CPA to answer this): Would the founders have to potentially, or always, pay taxes on the conversion? Seems like the sale of the LLC or the assets could be recognizable gain.

[uiri]

It seems like it would qualify under the rules of an Other Nontaxable Exchange - Property Exchanged for Stock.[0] I think there are enough cases like this and the IRS rules are sufficiently clear that it will be possible to structure the VC investment in a way that eliminates any tax liability on the conversion.

[0] https://www.irs.gov/publications/p544/ch01.html#en_US_2016_p...

[edoceo]

It's easy. Or the C-Corp owns the LLC, or IP assignment. Just move the assets over, not an actual sale.