[egfx]

Development is changing. You have to be proficient in alot of tools, design tools and CMS's included. If you learn these things. It will just make you better. A good way to filter out the bad developer btw is too see who bitches about learning new things.

[michaelmior]

This may be true at Startup 2.0 but there are plenty of companies who still value people with deep development knowledge. While I've met people who are are skilled developers and designers and they can be incredibly productive and useful in many contexts, it's not possible to have the same depth of knowledge when your focus is split.

I agree that developers should always be eager to learn new things, but I think it's also reasonable for a developer to want to stick to development and not design.

[busterarm]

I guess. I also get a ton of pushback from our design team because some tasks would be "too much work" that I show them can be done as a batch job in Photoshop in seconds. And specify the requirements that certain things be delivered in certain aspect ratios.

Our "creatives" tend to not know this stuff. Also they don't know other basic stuff about color spaces and typography.

You have to know a certain amount of these things in the webspace so that you can properly head off problems and explain requirements, especially as a senior developer.

More often than not, their "talent" (because they see it as a creative job) is more respected than your magic (because they don't have the faintest concept of what you do). If you're not in a technologhy company and it comes down to your needs or the designers, if you don't know their job too, you're going to lose.

I know all of this design shit, but I'm also a fullstack dev all the way down to the metal. It is possible. I just happened to grow up hacking on a C64, got into designing websites early and then worked in print production and dabbled in video for a while before getting back to software development.

[michaelmior]

I'm not arguing that's it's not useful to know design if you're working with designers. My comment was just that I think it's reasonable for some developers to want to stick to development. I also think there are plenty of roles available where the lack of desire to learn design isn't a stumbling block.

I do think it is possible to be good at design and development, I didn't say it was impossible. But if you want to keep growing in both, you have to invest time in both. Inevitably this means less time spent on each of the two things individually.

[vogt]

Design is the same way now, too. I've been doing UX professionally for years now and the competency level of front end development skills or view layer level stuff on Swift in the average designer has skyrocketed since just a couple years ago.