[xchaotic]

A bit like the other submission on learning JS in 2016. I find that I am getting dragged down by complexity. Even simple tic tac toe game that I was planning to write in vanilla js took me via jQuery, npm, Firebase etc. Sure its production ready but I just wanted to write something for fun. Wasn't really fun.

[krapp]

We can't have fun anymore. Web dev is serious business.

No one even writes javascript anymore, they compile it from Haskell or whatever. That's how serious it is.

[oddlyaromatic]

I'm curious, how did you find yourself taken to those technologies? What made you feel like you couldn't achieve it in vanilla JS?